*Read the EULA* before installing Chrome.

[jgarcia@tdg-i.com]

11. Content license from you

11.1 You retain copyright and any other rights you already hold in Content which you submit, post or display on or through, the Services. By submitting, posting or displaying the content you give Google a perpetual, irrevocable, worldwide, royalty-free, and non-exclusive license to reproduce, adapt, modify, translate, publish, publicly perform, publicly display and distribute any Content which you submit, post or display on or through, the Services. This license is for the sole purpose of enabling Google to display, distribute and promote the Services and may be revoked for certain Services as defined in the Additional Terms of those Services.

11.2 You agree that this license includes a right for Google to make such Content available to other companies, organizations or individuals with whom Google has relationships for the provision of syndicated services, and to use such Content in connection with the provision of those services.

11.3 You understand that Google, in performing the required technical steps to provide the Services to our users, may (a) transmit or distribute your Content over various public networks and in various media; and (b) make such changes to your Content as are necessary to conform and adapt that Content to the technical requirements of connecting networks, devices, services or media. You agree that this license shall permit Google to take these actions.

11.4 You confirm and warrant to Google that you have all the rights, power and authority necessary to grant the above license.

Just an FYI :)

[MindPatterns]

It's the standard google license... they needed to rush the beta so I guess they didn't have time to release an appropriate EULA. Let's see what it says when 1.0 gets released :)

[albeva]

I am now not sure. What if I go to my online banking account? Will they still retain the right to freely distribute any information I might submit there???

[jgarcia@tdg-i.com]

per the eula, you're using their 'service'. so yeah :(

[fallenrayne]

Just to give you guys heads up on this... it has already been addressed:

http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/google-chrome-license-agreement/

[dawesi]

Does anyone trust Google with their information... yeah they give everything away for free... just as long as you do to! That's fine as long as they spell it out 'clearly'... or they'll end up being fined again by a bunch of countries.

So Google Chrome 'regularly' talks to your 'selected' search engine so that it can 'suggest' other sites... aka Google is sniffing your browsing and wants in on that data...

[fallenrayne]

Does it really matter? Are they going to take over the world one user's data at a time? Is Google really going to try and steal my bank account information to rob me of my meager amounts of money when I make them 100x my current balance in ad revenue a year.

Google has everything to lose if they mishandle people's information. They survive off of trust in their company. If people don't trust their company, they don't view their ads, don't use their search, and don't use their apps. If anything came out that Google was misusing the information that they have access too, they would lose such a market share over night that it wouldn't be funny. That is the very reason I trust Google with my information. It is in their best interests to make sure that my information is as safe as possible, because if they lose people like me, they lose the majority of their revenue, ads. If it is in Google's best interests to keep my information safe, they have the money, know-how, and innovation to make sure it stays that way.

I think people are always looking for something evil, something corrupt. Everyone now-a-days seems to need a conspiracy to make life interesting. Yet those same people find heroes out of similar things they make villains out of. Look at Apple and Microsoft. Both are closed source, both are huge companies, both have their fingers in a lot of little pockets. I would contend that Apple is more closed source than Microsoft just on the sheer fact that you have to use their hardware with their software. Hell, just look at the whole iPhone debacle. But despite all of that, Apple is everything good and Microsoft is everything evil. Apple is the underdog for people to root for, Microsoft is the big bad bully that everyone hates.

Now this same thing is happening with Google, just on different fronts. Chrome is being looked at as the "Big Brother" browser or a rip off of Firefox, and everyone is saying "Well Firefox already does that if I add in this plug-in, that plug-in, and that plug-in's sister, so Firefox is obviously better". There is no logic behind it, but people have built up such a fervent love for Firefox that they are annoyed when anything comes in that could provide competition. The same thing is happening with Google's apps. People don't want to let Google control too much of their information so they find alternatives which are normally just startup companies that barely have the resources to secure your information, but I am really sure that your information is more secure there than Google. Don't want the Big Brother stealing all the secrets and ruling the world.

[benningdesign]

"But despite all of that, Apple is everything good and Microsoft is everything evil."

Apple at least has a keen eye for design... still no excuse for being so closed source and being viewed as saints.


PS - Linux is the [COLOR=black]

[jgarcia@tdg-i.com]

I use a mac and love it. I love my iphone, ipod and Apple tv. I loathe apple fan boys.

[jonhobbs]

Does it really matter?...

Post of the day :)

Sometimes I feel like a second class citizen in the javascript communit because, shock horror, I like C#.

Anti big-company snobbery gets very dull.

[jgarcia@tdg-i.com]

Agreed.

[benningdesign]

True

I find it entertaining that so much buzz on the internets is from people afraid that Google Chrome is going to 'steal' Firefox's market share... as if it actually owned that.

The same argument could be made for people that complain about loosing their jobs; it was never their job in the first place... the company always retains the ownership to the job and just contracts out to people to work that job and provide service (labor a resource) to that company... But I digress.

The point is Firefox is good. It has come a long way; great. I like Firefox. I still use Firefox (and now Chrome).

But, if Google Chrome is better - I'm using it. Let the best product win, especially if it is both free (gratis) and open source (libre).

[radustefan]

Other opinions here (http://www.dailytech.com/Google+Removes+Big+Brother+Clause+in+Chromes+EULA/article12856.htm)

Let's face it: Firefox 3 has a big problem: it is a memory hog. This is exactly the issue that Google Chrome fix with their independent process design.

Now I wish Firebug on Google Chrome :-)

[jgarcia@tdg-i.com]

IE8 b2 was reported to be worse with Memory.

[MindPatterns]

IE8 b2 was reported to be worse with Memory.

It's IE... any questions? ;)

[fallenrayne]

Chrome has Firebug, right click on a page and hit "Inspect Element"... it also has YSlow already built into it.

[rob.agar]

It's like Firebug, but not quite as good. More like IE Developer Toolbar /:)

[jgarcia@tdg-i.com]

Chrome has Firebug, right click on a page and hit "Inspect Element"... it also has YSlow already built into it.

is it *officially* firebug? I don't think so. ;)

[fallenrayne]

Meh, it has my needed elements. I can inspect the dom, I have a javascript console and error system that allows me to jump directly to the errors, it has computed styles and it has YSlow like utilities.

[evant]

I've been reading lots of news posts that have been suggesting that Chrome will start to take over the market share of IE. I think this is pretty misguided. If anything, I think it's likely to hurt the other browsers (FireFox, Opera) the most.

The way I see it is that if you can be bothered to download another browser, you will now have an extra choice. If you don't care, then Chrome isn't going to matter to you (the same as FireFox, Opera don't).

It did generate a whole lot of buzz though.

[Chris503]

I've been reading lots of news posts that have been suggesting that Chrome will start to take over the market share of IE. I think this is pretty misguided. If anything, I think it's likely to hurt the other browsers (FireFox, Opera) the most.

The way I see it is that if you can be bothered to download another browser, you will now have an extra choice. If you don't care, then Chrome isn't going to matter to you (the same as FireFox, Opera don't).

It did generate a whole lot of buzz though.

While I agree with you to a degree, the one thing that Chrome has for it that FireFox, and Opera don't is that normal users are going to see a message every time they search the internet... On googles home page right below the search box they feature crome, and with right advertising on the home page(Xtimes fast, more secure, blablabla) I think that after seeing the message that you can have a browser that is 10X faster than IE, a chuck of those users will try it out.

The one thing I would really like google to do, is if I am vieing their site using chrome (and I am) to remove the ad for it, I mean why prompt me to download the browser I am already using to view your site?

[mystix]

The one thing I would really like google to do, is if I am vieing their site using chrome (and I am) to remove the ad for it, I mean why prompt me to download the browser I am already using to view your site?

could it be *gasp* they currently don't have a way to differentiate their browser programatically from Safari?

[MatjazH]

could it be *gasp* they currently don't have a way to differentiate their browser programatically from Safari?


Mozilla/5.0+(Windows;+U;+Windows+NT+5.1;+en-US)+AppleWebKit/525.13+(KHTML,+like+Gecko)+Chrome/0.2.149.27+Safari/525.13

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[mystix]

Mozilla/5.0+(Windows;+U;+Windows+NT+5.1;+en-US)+AppleWebKit/525.13+(KHTML,+like+Gecko)+Chrome/0.2.149.27+Safari/525.13

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i didn't bother to check, but thanks for the heads up ;)

[evant]

Yikes, what a user agent. I'm surprised the words Lynx and Konqueror don't appear there somewhere ;)